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How is the CV from PRM Purchases distributed?


 Posted 5 months ago More by Stephen D.

How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully,
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,
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 Posted 5 months ago 1 Reply

[quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] Great question, Stephen. But already answered in the compensation plan: [quote]For all your Personally Referred Members (PRMs) Earn 20% of CV on their purchases Earn 100% of the VP on all their purchases Earn 1 Rewardical for every 10 they earn[/quote]
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,


Great question, Stephen. But already answered in the compensation plan:
For all your Personally Referred Members (PRMs)

Earn 20% of CV on their purchases
Earn 100% of the VP on all their purchases
Earn 1 Rewardical for every 10 they earn
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 Posted 5 months ago More by Stephen D.

[quote=1468137][quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] Great question, Stephen. But already answered in the compensation plan: [quote]For all your Personally Referred Members (PRMs) [u]Earn 20% of CV on their purchases [/u]Earn 100% of the VP on all their purchases Earn 1 Rewardical for every 10 they earn[/quote][/quote] https://www.sfimg.com/Reference/CompPlan -------------------------------------- Thank you Manuel, but this does not reveal how/where the other 80% of [b]CV[/b] is distributed. We [b]might[/b] [i]assume[/i] that a PRM has a parallel 12-tier Compressed-Upline (of bi-functional 'Referrers'/Sponsors) and distribute the 48% of CV Team Override accordingly. They (PRM) would be being treated (arguably) the same as a PSA. :busts_in_silhouette: Is a PRM then randomly assigned to 4-VIP psuedo "Co-Sponsors" to split their 32% of a Purchase CV? How is that justified? Best Wishes,
Manuel V. posted:
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,


Great question, Stephen. But already answered in the compensation plan:
For all your Personally Referred Members (PRMs)

Earn 20% of CV on their purchases
Earn 100% of the VP on all their purchases
Earn 1 Rewardical for every 10 they earn


www.sfimg.com/Reference/CompPlan
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Thank you Manuel, but this does not reveal how/where the other 80% of CV is distributed.

We might assume that a PRM has a parallel 12-tier Compressed-Upline (of bi-functional 'Referrers'/Sponsors) and distribute the 48% of CV Team Override accordingly. They (PRM) would be being treated (arguably) the same as a PSA.


Is a PRM then randomly assigned to 4-VIP psuedo "Co-Sponsors" to split their 32% of a Purchase CV? How is that justified?

Best Wishes,
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 Posted 5 months ago, edited 5 months ago 1 Reply

[b]Everyone needs to give Stephen a BIG pat on the back![/b] After seeing this post and discussing with my team, we realized that we had overlooked the 32% of CV allocated for Co-Sponsors on retail sales (purchases by PRMs). There are, of course, no co-sponsors of PRMs. So, starting immediately (really, starting retroactively, July 1st), we will now be adding that 32% to the Direct Commission earned by the referrers of PRMs. That means, that on retail sales, your DC is now a whopping 52%! And if you're also a Team Leader, add another 4% Team Override for a de facto 56% Direct Commission on your retail sales! WOW! [i]I think I speak for everyone in SFI when I say thank you so much, Stephen, for calling our attention to this oversight![/i] P.S. And just in time for our new gateway for Astro Auctions, which will be all about selling thousands of TCredits to PRMs!
Everyone needs to give Stephen a BIG pat on the back!

After seeing this post and discussing with my team, we realized that we had overlooked the 32% of CV allocated for Co-Sponsors on retail sales (purchases by PRMs). There are, of course, no co-sponsors of PRMs.

So, starting immediately (really, starting retroactively, July 1st), we will now be adding that 32% to the Direct Commission earned by the referrers of PRMs.

That means, that on retail sales, your DC is now a whopping 52%! And if you're also a Team Leader, add another 4% Team Override for a de facto 56% Direct Commission on your retail sales! WOW!

I think I speak for everyone in SFI when I say thank you so much, Stephen, for calling our attention to this oversight!

P.S. And just in time for our new gateway for Astro Auctions, which will be all about selling thousands of TCredits to PRMs!
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 Posted 5 months ago More by Tim B. 2 Replies

[quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] :clap: Good catch Stephen. The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA.
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,



Good catch Stephen.
The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA.
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 Posted 5 months ago 1 Reply

[quote=1468198][quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] :clap: Good catch Stephen. The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA. [/quote] Thanks Stephen! What do you thing about breakage fair share? If you have some clever suggestions please start a new thread about that. I have some ideas, would be glad to know your opinion.
Tim B. posted:
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,



Good catch Stephen.
The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA.



Thanks Stephen! What do you thing about breakage fair share? If you have some clever suggestions please start a new thread about that. I have some ideas, would be glad to know your opinion.
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 Posted 5 months ago More by Stephen D. 1 Reply

[quote=1468198][quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] :clap: Good catch Stephen. The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA. [/quote] Thank you, Tim, for the sentiment and assertation: "The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA". [u]A 'big picture' question and example [/u]At this time, I respectfully ask whether the "assertation" is "Official" or rather [u]a very reasonable conjecture[/u]. (I can not identify who is in the [b]Official[/b] spokesman category other than Gery and Adam) Respectfully, Forum Guru Badges and Support-Stars do not indicate Official Spokesman status to me. (I presently have both, and often offer reasonable conjectures) Best Wishes,
Tim B. posted:
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,



Good catch Stephen.
The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA.


Thank you, Tim, for the sentiment and assertation: "The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA".

A 'big picture' question and example
At this time, I respectfully ask whether the "assertation" is "Official" or rather a very reasonable conjecture. (I can not identify who is in the Official spokesman category other than Gery and Adam)

Respectfully, Forum Guru Badges and Support-Stars do not indicate Official Spokesman status to me. (I presently have both, and often offer reasonable conjectures)

Best Wishes,


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 Posted 5 months ago More by Stephen D.

[quote=1468239][quote=1468198][quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] :clap: Good catch Stephen. The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA. [/quote] Thanks Stephen! What do you thing about breakage fair share? If you have some clever suggestions please start a new thread about that. I have some ideas, would be glad to know your opinion. [/quote] Breakage is a new term for my "Commissions" vocabulary. I did "Ask Gery" about the distribution of the 48% of CV Team Overrides when there is a [b]shallow[/b] (less than 12 Compressed-Generations) Upline. https://www.sfimg.com/forum/thread?id=125455 "the official comp plan upgrade announcement [b]thread[/b]" & "more by Gery" led to https://www.sfimg.com/forum/thread?post_id=1433388#post-1433388 [quote] We intend to pay out all 48% (which is another reason why Team Overrides can be a VERY lucrative part of our plan). The exact method of payout for this "breakage," the best/fairest way, however, is something we are still finalizing. [/quote] Subsequently, Team Overrides were to be distributed [b]equally[/b] among the less than 12 Compressed-Generations pending a better method. (My 2 Compressed-Generation Upline would receive 24% of CV, Team Override each) I am sure Gery and his technical team will appreciate your Suggestions and/or Forum Discussion -- perhaps restricted to Team Leaders Category in this stage of development. I will add what I can there. :sweat_smile:
Boris J. posted:
Tim B. posted:
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,



Good catch Stephen.
The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA.



Thanks Stephen! What do you thing about breakage fair share? If you have some clever suggestions please start a new thread about that. I have some ideas, would be glad to know your opinion.


Breakage is a new term for my "Commissions" vocabulary.

I did "Ask Gery" about the distribution of the 48% of CV Team Overrides when there is a shallow (less than 12 Compressed-Generations) Upline. www.sfimg.com/forum/thread?id=125455

"the official comp plan upgrade announcement thread" & "more by Gery" led to www.sfimg.com/forum/thread?post_id=1433388#post-1433388

We intend to pay out all 48% (which is another reason why Team Overrides can be a VERY lucrative part of our plan). The exact method of payout for this "breakage," the best/fairest way, however, is something we are still finalizing.


Subsequently, Team Overrides were to be distributed equally among the less than 12 Compressed-Generations pending a better method. (My 2 Compressed-Generation Upline would receive 24% of CV, Team Override each)

I am sure Gery and his technical team will appreciate your Suggestions and/or Forum Discussion -- perhaps restricted to Team Leaders Category in this stage of development.

I will add what I can there.


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 Posted 5 months ago More by Tim B.

[quote=1468249][quote=1468198][quote=1468111]How are the [b]48% Team Override[/b] & [b]32% Co-Sponsor Commissions[/b] portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed? Specifically, since (I expect) [u]PRM do not have Co-Sponsors[/u], is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC? Respectfully, [/quote] :clap: Good catch Stephen. The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA. [/quote] Thank you, Tim, for the sentiment and assertation: "The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA". [u]A 'big picture' question and example [/u]At this time, I respectfully ask whether the "assertation" is "Official" or rather [u]a very reasonable conjecture[/u]. (I can not identify who is in the [b]Official[/b] spokesman category other than Gery and Adam) Respectfully, Forum Guru Badges and Support-Stars do not indicate Official Spokesman status to me. (I presently have both, and often offer reasonable conjectures) Best Wishes, [/quote] Sorry Stephen :blush: , no authority here... pure conjecture. I should have better qualified my statement with "I think" or "In my opinion". I usually do if I don't have a reference.
Stephen D. posted:
Tim B. posted:
Stephen D. posted:
How are the 48% Team Override & 32% Co-Sponsor Commissions portions of CV from a Purchase by a PRM distributed?

Specifically, since (I expect) PRM do not have Co-Sponsors, is that 32% of the CV added to their (Direct) Sponsor`s DC?

Respectfully,



Good catch Stephen.
The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA.


Thank you, Tim, for the sentiment and assertation: "The overrides would work just as if they were a PSA".

A 'big picture' question and example
At this time, I respectfully ask whether the "assertation" is "Official" or rather a very reasonable conjecture. (I can not identify who is in the Official spokesman category other than Gery and Adam)

Respectfully, Forum Guru Badges and Support-Stars do not indicate Official Spokesman status to me. (I presently have both, and often offer reasonable conjectures)

Best Wishes,



Sorry Stephen
, no authority here... pure conjecture.

I should have better qualified my statement with "I think" or "In my opinion". I usually do if I don't have a reference.
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 Posted 5 months ago

A BIG THANK YOU, Stephen!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/XoDi4q9.gif[/img]
A BIG THANK YOU, Stephen!!!

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 Posted 5 months ago

Thank you very much, Stephen, for posting this valuable part of the new Comp Plan. I was wondering the same. And for Gery's detailed explanation for all our benefits!:thumbsup:
Thank you very much, Stephen, for posting this valuable part of the new Comp Plan. I was wondering the same.
And for Gery's detailed explanation for all our benefits!
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 Posted 5 months ago

[quote=1468193][b]Everyone needs to give Stephen a BIG pat on the back![/b] After seeing this post and discussing with my team, we realized that we had overlooked the 32% of CV allocated for Co-Sponsors on retail sales (purchases by PRMs). There are, of course, no co-sponsors of PRMs. So, starting immediately (really, starting retroactively, July 1st), we will now be adding that 32% to the Direct Commission earned by the referrers of PRMs. That means, that on retail sales, your DC is now a whopping 52%! And if you're also a Team Leader, add another 4% Team Override for a de facto 56% Direct Commission on your retail sales! WOW! [i]I think I speak for everyone in SFI when I say thank you so much, Stephen, for calling our attention to this oversight![/i] P.S. And just in time for our new gateway for Astro Auctions, which will be all about selling thousands of TCredits to PRMs![/quote] Thank you Gery for this excellent decision,and Steven too for analysing the "Gap".
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Everyone needs to give Stephen a BIG pat on the back!

After seeing this post and discussing with my team, we realized that we had overlooked the 32% of CV allocated for Co-Sponsors on retail sales (purchases by PRMs). There are, of course, no co-sponsors of PRMs.

So, starting immediately (really, starting retroactively, July 1st), we will now be adding that 32% to the Direct Commission earned by the referrers of PRMs.

That means, that on retail sales, your DC is now a whopping 52%! And if you're also a Team Leader, add another 4% Team Override for a de facto 56% Direct Commission on your retail sales! WOW!

I think I speak for everyone in SFI when I say thank you so much, Stephen, for calling our attention to this oversight!

P.S. And just in time for our new gateway for Astro Auctions, which will be all about selling thousands of TCredits to PRMs!

Thank you Gery for this excellent decision,and Steven too for analysing the "Gap".
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